This is the table of contents for the interview of Vertna Saunders. It is part of the National Ragtime and Jazz Archive which is located in Lovejoy Library at Southern Illinois University Edwardsville.
For a complete contents list of all musician interviews for the oral history project, please click on this link: Oral History and Research Materials.
If interested in reviewing these materials from the National Ragtime and Jazz Archive, please contact Therese Dickman, Fine Arts Librarian.
Tape # Side |
Time |
Subject |
1 a |
005-114 |
Introduction; Biographical, Family, music, school
|
1 a |
115-167 |
First instrument, learning to play by ear
|
1 a |
168-222 |
Awareness of famous musicians - listening to records
|
1 a |
223-290 |
Brass bands, lodges, learning to read music
|
1 a |
291-329 |
Influence of Whiteman and Henry Busse
|
1 a |
330-378 |
Trip to Kansas City to hear Whiteman, meets
|
1 a |
379-419 |
School and lodge bands, parades
|
1 a |
420-444 |
Meets Lamarr Wright from B. Moten Band
|
1 a |
445-519 |
High school band jobs; Joins Kansas University Band
|
1 a |
520-545 |
Playing with K.U. Band, integration
|
1 a |
546-590 |
Goes to Chicago to play with Tiny Parham
|
1 a |
591-626 |
Plays Lake boat with Francois
|
1 a |
627-648 |
Meets Willie Humphrey
|
1 a |
649-687 |
Other trumpet players met in Chicago
|
1 a |
688-698 |
Paul Banks, K. City
|
1 a |
699-738 |
Bands heard in Chicago |
1 a |
739-end |
Kansas City |
1 b |
004-056 |
Eddie Tompkins - trumpet, Jimmy Lunceford
|
1 b |
057-114 |
Clarence Love Orchestra, personnel, Milton Fletcher
|
1 b |
115-149 |
Tour with Love Orchestra, - instrumentation,
|
1 b |
150-174 |
Kansas City - Vic Dickenson
|
1 b |
175-219 |
St. Louis - 1931; the "Cave", trumpet style; sitting in
|
1 b |
220-244 |
Kansas City - Harlan Leonard Band - Vic Dickenson
|
1 b |
245-310 |
The Cave; Harold Baker; KMOX Radio Band
|
1 b |
311-363 |
Eddie Johnson, Club Plantation Band, 1933-34, after Crackerjacks, musicians, and changes in
|
1 b |
364-395 |
Personnel met in Kansas City
|
1 b |
396-407 |
Plantation - nights, money
|
1 b |
408-449 |
K. City in 1935, rehearsals, show people at Plantation
|
1 b |
450-475 |
Sit-ins - Dewey Jackson, Red Allen, Rex Stewart, Jackson's style
|
1 b |
476-514 |
K. City with Eddie Johnson
|
1 b |
515-529 |
Joins Andy Lirk, Lester Young
|
1 b |
530-566 |
Leaves Kirk, returns to St. Louis
|
1 b |
567-599 |
Works with Marable & Creath on boats, meets Louie, other visiting musicians, Red Allen
|
1 b |
600-623 |
New Orleans, untrained musicians, "New Orleans style"
|
1 b |
624-653 |
Personnel of first band, Creath, directing, playing piano
|
1 b |
654-714 |
1936, personnel changes; "Trombone Smitty"
|
1 b |
715-742 |
Other personnel, 1936; Trip down river |
2 a |
001-079 |
New Orleans, musicians met there, sitting-in, working on boat
|
2 a |
080-132 |
New Orleans style; funerals, street bands, religious songs |
2 a |
133-185 |
Learning new styles, improvising, chord formation and changes
|
2 a |
186-240 |
Bands, tunes, musicians heard in New Orleans
|
2 a |
241-325 |
Dixieland music - study of in order to play with Palmer
|
2 a |
326-399 |
New Orleans, Kid Ory, after-hours, sitting-in
|
2 a |
400-420 |
Food, women, races in New Orleans
|
2 a |
421-483 |
Kaiter, N.O. trumpet player, other musicians
|
2 a |
484-523 |
Return St. Louis, 1938; Small Marable Band, club Soho
|
2 a |
524-589 |
Marable as pianist and leader
|
2 a |
590-673 |
Rehearsals, trumpet section; tunes; King, Telphy reed section
|
2 a |
674-697 |
Creath, playing and directing, personality, "father figure"
|
2 a |
698-724 |
Tab Smith, Donny Stovall
|
2 a |
725-733 |
Eddie Randle band, traveling Illinois, Missouri |
2 b |
005-134 |
Eddie Randle band, personnel, Springfield, N.Y., other cities
|
2 b |
135-193 |
Randle as player, other musicians in band
|
2 b |
194-274 |
Shows played for
|
2 b |
275-328 |
Return to St. Louis, WWII, White bands played with
|
2 b |
329-390 |
Medicine-packing job; Calls from Lunceford & Basie
|
2 b |
391-430 |
U.S. Army, basic training
|
2 b |
431-485 |
Trumpet exam
|
2 b |
486-524 |
U.S. Army Air Force Band, Swing Band, USO
|
2 b |
525-584 |
Musicians who did USO Shows, Lena Horne
|
2 b |
585-619 |
Other music jobs, Discharge - 1946
|
2 b |
620-647 |
Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson, Club Riveria
|
2 b |
648-688 |
Benny Goodman, Fox Theater & Castle Ballroom, 1946 & 47
|
2 b |
689-719 |
Jobbing around; Singleton Palmer band 1952, stomach ulcer
|
2 b |
720-737 |
Club dates with Palmer's Band; Delmar |
3 a |
005-075 |
Delmar Blvd. Club cont'd; New Year's Eve police raid
|
3 a |
076-127 |
Palmer's band; material; re-learning tunes; repertoire
|
3 a |
128-244 |
Personnel of Palmer band - beginning, changes in
|
3 a |
245-269 |
Saunder's opinion on best Palmer Band - reasons
|
3 a |
270-339 |
Present Palmer Band & other versions
|
3 a |
340-376 |
Havens' first visit to Gaslight Square
|
3 a |
377-399 |
Saunders with Joe Langworthy Band
|
3 a |
400-456 |
Clark Terry; Miles Davis
|
3 a |
457-517 |
Clark Terry - Circular breathing
|
3 a |
518-534 |
Bands traveling through St. Louis
|
3 a |
535-550 |
Gigging with George Hudson
|
3 a |
551-566 |
Ellington Band; Using Basie as standard for comparison
|
3 a |
567-606 |
Possible changes in life and career; Influence of
|
3 a |
607-628 |
Government jobs
|
3 a |
629-652 |
Influential musicians - to Saunders
|
3 a |
653-678 |
Best Bands - Blue Devils
|
3 a |
679-699 |
Lester Young
|
3 a |
700-717 |
Charlie Parker and his teacher
|
3 a |
718-742 |
Ben Webster , Dickie Wells
|
3 a |
743-754 |
Piano players |
3 b |
002-160 |
Blues singers - "Big" Joe Turner - as inspiration to E. Presley
|
3 b |
161-219 |
Pete Johnson, piano; Albert Ammons
|
3 b |
220-304 |
Night clubs in Kansas City : corruption and politics
|
3 b |
305-344 |
Discussion of other musicians
|
3 b |
345-373 |
Charlie Straight - i.e. F. Henderson?
|
3 b |
374-444 |
Trumpet players - Jabbo Smith; clarinet players
|
3 b |
445-480 |
Ralph Sutton |
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